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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 1, 2015 23:17:51 GMT -5
I emailed Ninja and texted Jagaloons, the last 2.
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 3, 2015 13:48:09 GMT -5
Can someone get in contact with the Jagaloons, Josh Derhammer? He hasn't logged in for awhile, missed the keeper deadline, etc.
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Post by Nellie's Holler on Jan 7, 2015 20:50:42 GMT -5
I text him about a week ago and never got a reply. So what's our play here? Only a few days left.
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Jan 8, 2015 9:32:57 GMT -5
I text him about a week ago and never got a reply. So what's our play here? Only a few days left. I texted him, too, and never got a response. How do we work his draft if he never shows?
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Post by Nuke LaLoosh Express on Jan 8, 2015 10:09:55 GMT -5
I text him about a week ago and never got a reply. So what's our play here? Only a few days left. I texted him, too, and never got a response. How do we work his draft if he never shows? I highly doubt we can get a replacement owner in the next day so I suggest one of two options: Option A: Contraction We postpone the draft and hold a separate, 2 round draft with the remaining managers where the order is randomly selected with additional lottery balls given based on last year's standings. It's a snake draft and any manager can take either one of his MLB or MiLB players. No manager has to take a player if they don't want to, but each will be given the stanear 8 hour time frame. Once the supplemental draft is over, we begin the real draft and all of his picks are skipped. Option 2: Mock Team Assemble We proceed with the draft as planned and when his pick comes up he automatically takes the highest percentage-owned player available left according to ESPN until we either find a replacement owner or Josh D returns. If we choose this option someone will need to copy and pasteven the list of players into an excel spreadsheet and place them in order by percentage-owned. I vote for option 1
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 8, 2015 13:10:06 GMT -5
I found a facebook profile for a Josh Derhammer in the Marines who likes the Diamondbacks, I think that's him: www.facebook.com/jderhammerI friend requested him and asked if he was still in. Maybe y'all should too? If he doesn't get back on board by Saturday we'll delay the beginning of the draft by a week. If he isn't back by then we can replace him or contract the team. I don't think drafting a dummy team full of overpriced veterans is an option.
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Post by guchida on Jan 8, 2015 17:57:03 GMT -5
Since the contraction/supplemental draft is a realistic possibility, is there any penalty for selecting anyone? I mean, if I select 2 people, do I have to drop 2 of my keepers? Do I lose 2 draft picks in the upcoming MLB/MiLB draft? Or is this purely supplemental, and they are added to my team while maintaining all other assets I currently have on my team? Sorry if this was addressed elsewhere and I missed it.
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Post by C4 on Jan 8, 2015 18:39:26 GMT -5
I also sent him a text with no reply. I also called and got a generic voice mail greeting (I left a message anyway). I then friend-requested him as well. If that's him, then it seems like he may be out of pocket due to military obligations? In any case, it's not looking good for him to be with us for the draft. I am down for whatever path this takes, but I hope we can at least get a hold of him and ensure that everything is all right...
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 8, 2015 21:08:42 GMT -5
Since the contraction/supplemental draft is a realistic possibility, is there any penalty for selecting anyone? I mean, if I select 2 people, do I have to drop 2 of my keepers? Do I lose 2 draft picks in the upcoming MLB/MiLB draft? Or is this purely supplemental, and they are added to my team while maintaining all other assets I currently have on my team? Sorry if this was addressed elsewhere and I missed it. i was thinking you wouldn't have to drop anyone or lose picks, purely supplemental. Basically any way we do it would put most teams above the max roster (and/or at the cap of 20minor leaguers) at some point, either before or after the drafts, and it's easier to deal with after. If you have to drop keepers to add supplemental picks, it would still unbalance and front-load the main drafts by adding in the unkept players. If you don't have to drop keepers, it reduces the value of late picks (when we all might already have full rosters,) but that's not as big of a deal.
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Post by C4 on Jan 8, 2015 21:26:12 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with Matt. A "supplemental" draft is just that... supplemental. I am not as worried about the picks at the end of the draft affecting my roster limit, as I consider players drafted there as lottery tickets anyway (and they are likely the first guys dropped to pick up another useful piece that shows promise).
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Post by guchida on Jan 8, 2015 22:13:32 GMT -5
Thanks. I wanted to make sure we were on the same page. The NFL supplemental draft, for instance, you lose picks that correspond in the actual draft, and that's something that was adopted in a previous league I was in.
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Post by C4 on Jan 8, 2015 22:49:11 GMT -5
Thanks. I wanted to make sure we were on the same page. The NFL supplemental draft, for instance, you lose picks that correspond in the actual draft, and that's something that was adopted in a previous league I was in. True. And to be honest, I would say that would be a good idea for this league. But the issue is that there are 30 guys to do that with (potentially). Whichever way we do it is fine with me...
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Jan 9, 2015 12:52:40 GMT -5
I wish Josh D. was around and hope he's ok, but he hasn't been on Proboards since before Halloween, hasn't responded to texts or emails during that time, (presumably) hasn't responded to the FB friend requests you guys sent...I see very little point to waiting until tomorrow to make a call on this. Let's not keep the other 15 of us waiting around to see when the draft will start.
I also see no point in a supplemental draft. I think the simplest way to solve this is to contract the Rapist Jagaloons, skip the supplemental draft and throw all of his players into the pool, and start the draft tomorrow as planned.
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Post by Lunatic Fringe on Jan 9, 2015 12:56:43 GMT -5
I wish Josh D. was around and hope he's ok, but he hasn't been on Proboards since before Halloween, hasn't responded to texts or emails during that time, (presumably) hasn't responded to the FB friend requests you guys sent...I see very little point to waiting until tomorrow to make a call on this. Let's not keep the other 15 of us waiting around to see when the draft will start. I also see no point in a supplemental draft. I think the simplest way to solve this is to contract the Rapist Jagaloons, skip the supplemental draft and throw all of his players into the pool, and start the draft tomorrow as planned. I'm with Colin on this. Why not keep it simple?
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Post by Nuke LaLoosh Express on Jan 9, 2015 14:28:28 GMT -5
I wish Josh D. was around and hope he's ok, but he hasn't been on Proboards since before Halloween, hasn't responded to texts or emails during that time, (presumably) hasn't responded to the FB friend requests you guys sent...I see very little point to waiting until tomorrow to make a call on this. Let's not keep the other 15 of us waiting around to see when the draft will start. I also see no point in a supplemental draft. I think the simplest way to solve this is to contract the Rapist Jagaloons, skip the supplemental draft and throw all of his players into the pool, and start the draft tomorrow as planned. I hope he's doing OK, that's far more important than this league. But as for dumping all of his players into the draft pool, the problem with that is managers already traded away picks, namely Yoink to me, so the value of my 3 first round picks will skyrocket and I don't think it's fair to him or others that may have traded picks. However, if you guys want to do that I'm certainly not going to oppose it because it just gives me the opportunity to draft better players. That's why I had suggested a supplemental draft, apart from our regular draft. It would also help other teams improve their keepers pre-draft and make the league even more competitive than it is. Bottom line though, we need to make a decision now.
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 9, 2015 15:38:59 GMT -5
Ok you impatient nancies. First off, we aren't in any rush. We finish the drafts in early March every year and that's with taking a week between MLB and MiLB drafts. Taking an extra week to give one of our guys an opportunity to stay in the league (or have someone find a replacement) isn't a big deal.
Secondly, we really can't dump his players into the draft pool without drastically altering the values of early draft picks. Especially so close to the draft, especially with trades that have gone down. After keepers, our first round is more like a 13th round in a different league, or even later considering the number of minor leaguers that would be drafted early in a standard league; if we suddenly dump some real 1st round picks in it turns the whole thing on its head. 1st overall? Michael Brantley. 2nd overall? Kyle Seager. Half the 1st round picks would come straight off his team. Even worse in the MiLB draft, all 8 of his keepers are probably drafted halfway through rd 2.
Besides, everyone was jazzed about a supplemental draft the last time it came up. It'll be fun.
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Post by Rusty Trombones - Jackson on Jan 9, 2015 16:08:24 GMT -5
I'm against the sup draft, especially if it's a random draw. I don't want to potentially give a great team first pick of someone else's team. The team that pick high in the draft pick there for a reason, and loading up the first round is what it is. Plus Josh you suck every year so giving you extra players isn't a huge deal.
And yeah I hope everything is cool with Josh, maybe just deployed?
Someone call Gary I know I'd be excited to have him back.
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Jan 9, 2015 20:49:24 GMT -5
Secondly, we really can't dump his players into the draft pool without drastically altering the values of early draft picks. Especially so close to the draft, especially with trades that have gone down. What's the difference? A first-round pick might get you a better player than it would without contracting the Jagaloons, but with more players in the pool, so will a 2nd-round pick, a 3rd-round pick, and every subsequent round. Contraction will make the first-round pick more valuable than it used to be, but not more valuable relative to picks in every other round, so every team should still be able to get good value for their picks no matter where they are.
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Post by ripkensboys on Jan 10, 2015 9:25:56 GMT -5
Make it simple and just throw them in the pool--I do have the first pick so I am a bit biased, but I always prefer simplicity.
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Post by Nellie's Holler on Jan 10, 2015 9:34:29 GMT -5
I'm with Kings on this. If Yoink had known he could get a top tier talent with his 1st round pick, he wouldn't have traded it so easily. Same thing with Kings trading me his 1st round MiLB pick. Putting the MiLB players in the pool makes that pick much better considering his minor league players. Supplemental Draft all the way.
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Post by Lunatic Fringe on Jan 10, 2015 10:34:45 GMT -5
Plus Josh you suck every year so giving you extra players isn't a huge deal. You beat me to it.
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 10, 2015 13:24:53 GMT -5
I'm sorry to those who disagree, but we are not going to just throw Jagaloons players into the draft. Call me dictator of the league or whatever, but we are not going to do that. It increases the value of the first 10-12 picks dramatically and disproportionally with the rest of the draft. It's the least fair way to distribute the players. I know some of you want to get things going and you want to keep it simple, but waiting a few days or a week isn't a big deal and I'll probably be the one to deal with the complications anyway.
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Post by ripkensboys on Jan 10, 2015 13:51:57 GMT -5
Bobby Ayala I am with and withdraw my previous stance:)
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 10, 2015 14:51:49 GMT -5
Bobby Ayala I am with and withdraw my previous stance:) I will remember your loyalty when I conquer the world:)
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Jan 10, 2015 19:24:14 GMT -5
Bobby Ayala I am with and withdraw my previous stance:) That's clearly the drugs talking.
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Post by ripkensboys on Jan 10, 2015 20:38:51 GMT -5
Bobby Ayala I am with and withdraw my previous stance:) That's clearly the drugs talking. Just supporting a commissioner--because I am a commissioner in multiple leagues. I also have rethought the position and see how throwing the players back in is unfair to those that traded picks.
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Jan 10, 2015 20:43:50 GMT -5
That's clearly the drugs talking. Just supporting a commissioner--because I am a commissioner in multiple leagues. I also have rethought the position and see how throwing the players back in is unfair to those that traded picks. Drugs.
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 17, 2015 8:54:23 GMT -5
Update: Derhammer accepted my friend request but didn't answer my question about staying in the league, then he posted something about a movie. So it appears he's fine, just checked out and gone without saying anything.
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