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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Sept 7, 2016 15:13:34 GMT -5
Hey folks, as you may have noticed I haven't been as active this year as in the past, mainly due to work, and unfortunately I'm going to be taking another step back from any administrative stuff next year because my wife and I are having our 1st kid in January. Yay! But Boo! also, because this means I won't be doing all the prep work I've been doing the last few years and I'll probably suck at fantasy baseball in general for awhile.
Starting with copying the salaries from Cot's before they roll over to 2017, and then the winter meetings, I'm wondering if someone else wants to take over everything, or if y'all want to divvy up the various stuff, or if the league needs a bigger kick in the butt with some major overhaul or a reset. I leave that up to all of you-- I'm staying with this core group of active managers if I can, in whatever form that league takes, the 9 or so of you who stay active all year are some of the best I've ever played against and I don't want to lose that, but I need to simplify.
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Post by guchida on Sept 7, 2016 21:20:29 GMT -5
Oh good...I'm not the only one who will use the "having first kid (November)" as an excuse.
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Post by guchida on Sept 7, 2016 21:22:04 GMT -5
That said...I probably will be maintaining an active level, but I barely can keep up with my team as is and probably can't help much with any admin type stuff
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Post by Nuke LaLoosh Express on Sept 8, 2016 2:19:34 GMT -5
Congrats Griffin! But you certainly won't be the only one with that excuse. Our first little one is due to arrive Nov. 4.
I'll have a longer post on this in the next day or so
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Post by guchida on Sept 8, 2016 2:37:34 GMT -5
Ha! That's our due date, too. Congrats to everyone...babies kill fake baseball!
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Post by Yoink! on Sept 9, 2016 3:38:57 GMT -5
Congrats to all on the babies. While I can't take on any additional responsibilities, I enjoy this league and am happy to go in whatever direction it goes.
Sent from my SM-G900V using proboards
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Post by Lunatic Fringe on Sept 10, 2016 21:13:03 GMT -5
Congrats you guys, that's really awesome. I love this league, and I've played with some of you for many years now, and I'd love for this to keep going. We can decide in the offseason what direction we want to go, but I'd love to stay together. Shoot me any ideas you have. In the meantime, I will take stock of just how much of the responsibility I can take back on between now and the end of the year. Im working a few less hours than I have in years, and I'll even have a bit of time at work to do some administrative things.
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Sept 11, 2016 10:37:24 GMT -5
Wow...a lot of baby-making going on in the Sandlot. Congrats, fuckers.
I'd vote for dividing up responsibilities. In particular, I'd vote for everyone keeping track of and posting the salaries and transactions for their own teams. We used to be responsible for our own rosters and it worked pretty well. As much as I appreciate all the work Matt has done, I wouldn't wish all that work on anyone for something that's supposed to be fun.
This league demands a certain level of involvement from its owners to be successful. It's the best league I've ever played in and I want it to keep being successful.
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Post by Rusty Trombones - Jackson on Sept 12, 2016 17:17:35 GMT -5
Congrats guys!!!
I knew about Josh but not Matt and Griffin, so awesome.
I also have less time then ever, I'm only in this one and one other and I can barely keep them together but I'm down to keep going in whatever direction we choose. It is a very good group.
I can't take any new responsibility but I'm down to keep my own shit together and do whatever the group decides to keep it going.
Jackson
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Post by guchida on Sept 13, 2016 9:46:45 GMT -5
I'm fully on board with everyone being required to keep their own teams updated regarding salaries, returning to the full posting of add/drops, and having an updated MLB and MiLB roster on pro boards. I feel like the changes over the last year or two were in efforts to increase the ease of participation for all teams, but it seems like the amount of participation was about the same (some very active, some keeping up, and some falling behind). Seems like this is the year for a really intensive "owners meeting" board...perhaps there are things we want/can start pointing out now that could go into effect immediately (rather than the typical one year wait period for rule changes)...if that's an agreeable suggestion, should we post those things here, or make a different thread?
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Post by Nuke LaLoosh Express on Sept 15, 2016 0:46:19 GMT -5
So, I don't know if this will be a popular idea or not, but I'm recommending we eliminate salaries.
Hear me out before you start typing your rant.
Salaries drastically affect this league in a variety of ways. There's always talent available via free agency because that player's contract is too high. Same with the draft. Players are either taken much higher than normal or fall farther from their typical draft position because they're too expensive.
So why should we get rid of them?
Well, first of all, we wouldn't need to post major league transaction, we wouldn't have to consult Cot's every time we look at wether we should pick up Matt Holiday.
Secondly, Matt, or anyone else, would have to track other team's finances to make sure they don't exceed their cap.
Third, it will increase trade potential. I can guarantee everyone in this league has shot down a trade based on salary and a players contract.
And lastly, it will encourage teams to be more involved. I think salaries and keeping track of them is a nuisance that people don't have time for unless they're in the top spot or chasing it.
So, why would I want to do make this change? What's in it for me? Competitively, I get nothing. I probably have the most to lose if this goes through. I've built my team and keepers with the youngest, cheapest talent in the league. I've traded for a shit ton of extra picks so I could spend big and get players who cost more in the early rounds and I've traded away dozens of talented players to reduce my total salary.
The reason I'm suggesting this is to save the league I love. I've been here since the beginning and helped Mack and others build this from the start and I don't want to see this group collapse. I truly believe this is the only way to keep this league going. I'd wager most if not all the previous managers we've had to replace was because keeping track of the salaries was too much.
OK, I've ranted long enough. If anyone else has another idea I'd love to hear it.
Josh
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Sept 15, 2016 9:48:13 GMT -5
So, I don't know if this will be a popular idea or not, but I'm recommending we eliminate salaries. Hear me out before you start typing your rant. Salaries drastically affect this league in a variety of ways. There's always talent available via free agency because that player's contract is too high. Same with the draft. Players are either taken much higher than normal or fall farther from their typical draft position because they're too expensive. So why should we get rid of them? Well, first of all, we wouldn't need to post major league transaction, we wouldn't have to consult Cot's every time we look at wether we should pick up Matt Holiday. Secondly, Matt, or anyone else, would have to track other team's finances to make sure they don't exceed their cap. Third, it will increase trade potential. I can guarantee everyone in this league has shot down a trade based on salary and a players contract. And lastly, it will encourage teams to be more involved. I think salaries and keeping track of them is a nuisance that people don't have time for unless they're in the top spot or chasing it. So, why would I want to do make this change? What's in it for me? Competitively, I get nothing. I probably have the most to lose if this goes through. I've built my team and keepers with the youngest, cheapest talent in the league. I've traded for a shit ton of extra picks so I could spend big and get players who cost more in the early rounds and I've traded away dozens of talented players to reduce my total salary. The reason I'm suggesting this is to save the league I love. I've been here since the beginning and helped Mack and others build this from the start and I don't want to see this group collapse. I truly believe this is the only way to keep this league going. I'd wager most if not all the previous managers we've had to replace was because keeping track of the salaries was too much. OK, I've ranted long enough. If anyone else has another idea I'd love to hear it. Josh I'm not opposed to this, and I just traded Kershaw for Matt Carpenter primarily because of salaries. This would simplify things quite a bit, and wouldn't change player values as much as we'd think.
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Sept 15, 2016 9:49:31 GMT -5
I'm fully on board with everyone being required to keep their own teams updated regarding salaries, returning to the full posting of add/drops, and having an updated MLB and MiLB roster on pro boards. I feel like the changes over the last year or two were in efforts to increase the ease of participation for all teams, but it seems like the amount of participation was about the same (some very active, some keeping up, and some falling behind). Seems like this is the year for a really intensive "owners meeting" board...perhaps there are things we want/can start pointing out now that could go into effect immediately (rather than the typical one year wait period for rule changes)...if that's an agreeable suggestion, should we post those things here, or make a different thread? Post things here. I like the idea of going back to the way it was in principle, I just don't believe about 1/3 of this league will do it.
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Post by Lunatic Fringe on Sept 15, 2016 12:06:56 GMT -5
I think dropping salaries might be an easy fix. It's the minor league draft and rosters that help separate this league from others more so than the salary element.
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Post by guchida on Sept 15, 2016 20:46:10 GMT -5
I'm fully on board with everyone being required to keep their own teams updated regarding salaries, returning to the full posting of add/drops, and having an updated MLB and MiLB roster on pro boards. I feel like the changes over the last year or two were in efforts to increase the ease of participation for all teams, but it seems like the amount of participation was about the same (some very active, some keeping up, and some falling behind). Seems like this is the year for a really intensive "owners meeting" board...perhaps there are things we want/can start pointing out now that could go into effect immediately (rather than the typical one year wait period for rule changes)...if that's an agreeable suggestion, should we post those things here, or make a different thread? Post things here. I like the idea of going back to the way it was in principle, I just don't believe about 1/3 of this league will do it. I'm not sure 1/3 of the league is doing anything (exaggeration, but you get the point)... Salary wise, that's certainly a way to make things A LOT easier (though my excel knowledge finally got put to use in a non-work environment). Takes an element of fun out of it for me because I really enjoy some of the cost/benefit analysis that goes into the $ stuff, but I'm sure I'm in the minority there. If this is truly getting close to the dying days of this (which I doubt it is), I say we at least go out with something crazy, like everyone needs 1 player from every team (a la all star game) and really just make it weird...or you draft the Detroit Infield, and can only play those guys in your slots...these are just joke suggestions, but maybe I've created niche for a new league for me to start up...
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Post by Ninja Warriors (JB) on Sept 15, 2016 20:59:08 GMT -5
So, I don't know if this will be a popular idea or not, but I'm recommending we eliminate salaries. Hear me out before you start typing your rant. Salaries drastically affect this league in a variety of ways. There's always talent available via free agency because that player's contract is too high. Same with the draft. Players are either taken much higher than normal or fall farther from their typical draft position because they're too expensive. So why should we get rid of them? Well, first of all, we wouldn't need to post major league transaction, we wouldn't have to consult Cot's every time we look at wether we should pick up Matt Holiday. Secondly, Matt, or anyone else, would have to track other team's finances to make sure they don't exceed their cap. Third, it will increase trade potential. I can guarantee everyone in this league has shot down a trade based on salary and a players contract. And lastly, it will encourage teams to be more involved. I think salaries and keeping track of them is a nuisance that people don't have time for unless they're in the top spot or chasing it. So, why would I want to do make this change? What's in it for me? Competitively, I get nothing. I probably have the most to lose if this goes through. I've built my team and keepers with the youngest, cheapest talent in the league. I've traded for a shit ton of extra picks so I could spend big and get players who cost more in the early rounds and I've traded away dozens of talented players to reduce my total salary. The reason I'm suggesting this is to save the league I love. I've been here since the beginning and helped Mack and others build this from the start and I don't want to see this group collapse. I truly believe this is the only way to keep this league going. I'd wager most if not all the previous managers we've had to replace was because keeping track of the salaries was too much. OK, I've ranted long enough. If anyone else has another idea I'd love to hear it. Josh This is the obvious easy step. I know I have avoided making moves because I didn't want to deal with the associated salary moves. I know it's lazy because it only takes a few minutes, but it made a difference. I think this would make a major impact on activity. I also kind of think the milb system complicates things because it requires an extra step to investigate instead of just grabbing the best FA, but I do think that's what separates this league from all the others. It isn't that hard to check whether or not they are a technical rookie. I'm definitely not the most active, but this is the the league that introduced me to real fantasy sports (keepers/milb) so I will always love it and support it, just thought I'll add my 2 cents to the convo. I think it really just boils down to being able to make a quick add/drop on ESPN at work versus having to make the ESPN move and then make 2 other actions/moves afterwards ( cots/pro boards)
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Sept 17, 2016 11:54:22 GMT -5
I'm not in favor of dropping salaries, because for me, the complexity of this league IS the allure. I don't think dropping salaries will increase participation...it will only increase the number of drops and adds. We used to talk a bunch of shit here on Proboards. I don't see that happening much anymore, and I hope we don't become like every other ESPN league I've been in, where the owners interact on draft day and then don't talk again all season.
All that being said, I'll support what the majority of the league wants to do. I just hope it actually increases participation.
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Post by ripkensboys on Oct 5, 2016 15:29:47 GMT -5
My opinion means Less than most but, I like salary piece because I have been building a team based on it. That said I do not know what the future holds for me--no salaries would make things both easier and less interesting
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