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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Feb 16, 2010 12:50:34 GMT -5
Is there/should there be a cut-off date for minor league signings in relation to who we can draft? The draft starts in 2 days and there are still a number of Cubans, Japanese, and other players who aren't signed but are expected to sign. What if one of them signs when we're in the middle of the 5th round, does someone get lucky or should that guys not be available until next year's draft?
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Feb 16, 2010 13:12:02 GMT -5
In my opinion, anyone who is not signed by 8 AM ET on Thursday (the official start time for our draft), should not be eligible for our MiLB draft.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2010 16:09:10 GMT -5
If they are not signed to an MLB team by the start of the draft, then they are 2011-eligible. If by some miracle one of them loses MilB eligibility this season, they go on waivers and owners will have to use a waiver claim to grab said player.
That's what I think should happen.
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Post by Nuke LaLoosh Express on Feb 16, 2010 16:10:21 GMT -5
If they are not signed to an MLB team by the start of the draft, then they are 2011-eligible. If by some miracle one of them loses MilB eligibility this season, they go on waivers and owners will have to use a waiver claim to grab said player. That's what I think should happen. ditto |
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Feb 16, 2010 17:44:32 GMT -5
If they are not signed to an MLB team by the start of the draft, then they are 2011-eligible. If by some miracle one of them loses MilB eligibility this season, they go on waivers and owners will have to use a waiver claim to grab said player. That's what I think should happen. ditto Agreed. 8am Thursday EST |
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Post by Lunatic Fringe on Feb 18, 2010 2:16:53 GMT -5
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Dec 31, 2011 12:05:35 GMT -5
In light of the fact that Yoenis Cespedes hasn't signed (nor has he even become eligible to sign), I thought it was worth bumping this thread in advance of our draft.
Since our draft starts on January 10:
1) Any international player not signed by 8am ET on January 10 is not eligible for our draft this season.
2) If that player signs later, even during our draft, he is not eligible to be picked up unless he loses MiLB-eligibility.
3) IF a previously-undrafted player loses MiLB eligibility, he must go through the waiver process and teams must submit claims.
Does that sound correct, based on what we've done in the past?
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Post by Nellie's Holler on Dec 31, 2011 12:16:10 GMT -5
For MiLB players, I think they have to be signed by start of the MiLB draft, not the MLB draft. Looking at this thread, it's dated for Feb 16th, so I think that's the way we had it. If it isn't that way, it'll suck simply because we'll have to wait on Cespedes, Jorge Soler (not as big a name), and very possibly Yu Darvish as well who would certainly be a top pick.
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Dec 31, 2011 12:58:17 GMT -5
Oh, yeah...duh. That makes sense. So the deadline would be 8am on the morning that our MiLB draft begins. Texas has until January 18 to sign Darvish or he goes back to Japan, so we'll definitely know in advance whether or not he's eligible for the MiLB draft.
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Dec 31, 2011 13:28:48 GMT -5
For MiLB players, I think they have to be signed by start of the MiLB draft, not the MLB draft. Looking at this thread, it's dated for Feb 16th, so I think that's the way we had it. If it isn't that way, it'll suck simply because we'll have to wait on Cespedes, Jorge Soler (not as big a name), and very possibly Yu Darvish as well who would certainly be a top pick. We could just say Darvish and Cespedes are eligible for the minor league draft, no matter when they actually sign. |
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Dec 31, 2011 13:58:55 GMT -5
For MiLB players, I think they have to be signed by start of the MiLB draft, not the MLB draft. Looking at this thread, it's dated for Feb 16th, so I think that's the way we had it. If it isn't that way, it'll suck simply because we'll have to wait on Cespedes, Jorge Soler (not as big a name), and very possibly Yu Darvish as well who would certainly be a top pick. We could just say Darvish and Cespedes are eligible for the minor league draft, no matter when they actually sign. It doesn't make sense to me to have different eligibility rules for two individuals just because they happen to be more promising than others. |
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Dec 31, 2011 16:49:44 GMT -5
We could just say Darvish and Cespedes are eligible for the minor league draft, no matter when they actually sign. It doesn't make sense to me to have different eligibility rules for two individuals just because they happen to be more promising than others. It'll suck if Cespedes and Darvish are blowing everyone away, but no one can pick them up because of this rule. Imagine if this league existed in 2001 and we were all just sitting there watching Ichiro rack up MVP numbers in the free agent pool. I'd be a fan of making an exception for players like this every year if necessary, just my opinion. |
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Post by C4 on Dec 31, 2011 17:11:59 GMT -5
It doesn't make sense to me to have different eligibility rules for two individuals just because they happen to be more promising than others. It'll suck if Cespedes and Darvish are blowing everyone away, but no one can pick them up because of this rule. Imagine if this league existed in 2001 and we were all just sitting there watching Ichiro rack up MVP numbers in the free agent pool. I'd be a fan of making an exception for players like this every year if necessary, just my opinion. I hate to play Devil's Advocate (OK, so that's a lie), but if they are tearing it up in the Majors, we'd only have to wait for 50 innings / 130 abs to make use of him / them. |
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Dec 31, 2011 20:27:27 GMT -5
It'll suck if Cespedes and Darvish are blowing everyone away, but no one can pick them up because of this rule. Imagine if this league existed in 2001 and we were all just sitting there watching Ichiro rack up MVP numbers in the free agent pool. I'd be a fan of making an exception for players like this every year if necessary, just my opinion. I hate to play Devil's Advocate (OK, so that's a lie), but if they are tearing it up in the Majors, we'd only have to wait for 50 innings / 130 abs to make use of him / them. Exactly. If the only reason we can come up with is "it'll suck if they are blowing everyone away, but no one can pick them up," then we don't have a good, valid reason to subvert our own eligibility guidelines. If we do it for that reason alone, what's next? Can I keep players on my MiLB roster longer than the eligibility guidelines dictate if they aren't performing up to my expectations? |
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Post by fishmystic on Dec 31, 2011 20:57:34 GMT -5
I hate to play Devil's Advocate (OK, so that's a lie), but if they are tearing it up in the Majors, we'd only have to wait for 50 innings / 130 abs to make use of him / them. Exactly. If the only reason we can come up with is "it'll suck if they are blowing everyone away, but no one can pick them up," then we don't have a good, valid reason to subvert our own eligibility guidelines. If we do it for that reason alone, what's next? Can I keep players on my MiLB roster longer than the eligibility guidelines dictate if they aren't performing up to my expectations? Fucking academic, expecting people to back up arguments with logic... |
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