Draft Commentary

[Bobby Ayala - Matt]

Fuck Chemistry, can someone help me track the evolution of Denise Levertov's poetry as her influences changed from Eliot to Williams?

Or help me decipher Wallace Steven's "The Emperor of Ice-Cream" ?

The Emperor of Ice-Cream

Call the roller of big cigars,
The muscular one, and bid him whip
In kitchen cups concupiscent curds.
Let the wenches dawdle in such dress
As they are used to wear, and let the boys
Bring flowers in last month's newspapers.
Let be be finale of seem.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.

Take from the dresser of deal,
Lacking the three glass knobs, that sheet
On which she embroidered fantails once
And spread it so as to cover her face.
If her horny feet protrude, they come
To show how cold she is, and dumb.
Let the lamp affix its beam.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.

[Ninja Warriors (JB)]

Dude you need to just drop that class. I like to read books but interpreting poetry is just shot in the dark. I think it all depends on what drugs the poet was on in that particular phase of the life.

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The Emperor of Ice-Cream is a criticism of all mankind in its pursuit of physical desires including wealth, power, greed, and luxuries of other sorts. All of these pursuits are fragile and futile. Concupiscent actually means lustful or greatly desirable.

While a majority of history is stemmed in the great moments in political movement, social reform, and other civilized accomplishment, all of man's doings are driven by this id, this insatiable pursuit of physical, worldly desires. "Let be be the finale of seem" is a call to those hungry for satiating their lustful desires to get a grasp on reality and take it for what it is, not what it seems to be (i.e. stop "wanting" everything). Power means "Hey, I got what I wanted," but it should mean nothing to all else.

And no matter how beautiful one's things are or how delicate one's clothing might be, the person inside the "beautiful" shell still has the capacity for ugliness and stupidity. Not all is what it seems, making desires for those things aimed at hiding that harsh reality all worthless in the end.

That second stanza is kind of a knock on marriage and women who do themselves up in the mirror every now and then, because all that crap isn't going to hide the fact that she's still an ugly person.

In short, physical desires are petty and for fools who cannot grasp reality. They hide behind their desires and are in constant pursuit of a perfection they can never attain for they cannot hide what is with an abundance of things that only seem to be.

GET IT?!?!? Haha.

[Bobby Ayala - Matt]

unfortunately, 1 semester away from a master's degree isn't the time to drop a class. i was joking anyway, i love what i do and i love that poem

[Deleted]

Ah damnit. I love that poem too.

[Deleted]

I hope Nuke picks soon. I'm gettin' the itch.

[Bobby Ayala - Matt]

ruck859 said:

The Emperor of Ice-Cream is a criticism of all mankind in its pursuit of physical desires including wealth, power, greed, and luxuries of other sorts. All of these pursuits are fragile and futile. Concupiscent actually means lustful or greatly desirable.

While a majority of history is stemmed in the great moments in political movement, social reform, and other civilized accomplishment, all of man's doings are driven by this id, this insatiable pursuit of physical, worldly desires. "Let be be the finale of seem" is a call to those hungry for satiating their lustful desires to get a grasp on reality and take it for what it is, not what it seems to be (i.e. stop "wanting" everything). Power means "Hey, I got what I wanted," but it should mean nothing to all else.

And no matter how beautiful one's things are or how delicate one's clothing might be, the person inside the "beautiful" shell still has the capacity for ugliness and stupidity. Not all is what it seems, making desires for those things aimed at hiding that harsh reality all worthless in the end.

That second stanza is kind of a knock on marriage and women who do themselves up in the mirror every now and then, because all that crap isn't going to hide the fact that she's still an ugly person.

In short, physical desires are petty and for fools who cannot grasp reality. They hide behind their desires and are in constant pursuit of a perfection they can never attain for they cannot hide what is with an abundance of things that only seem to be.

GET IT?!?!? Haha.

Did you come up with that yourself, or did you download it from somewhere? Impressive if you did it yourself.

[Lunatic Fringe]

ruck859 said:

The Emperor of Ice-Cream is a criticism of all mankind in its pursuit of physical desires including wealth, power, greed, and luxuries of other sorts. All of these pursuits are fragile and futile. Concupiscent actually means lustful or greatly desirable.

While a majority of history is stemmed in the great moments in political movement, social reform, and other civilized accomplishment, all of man's doings are driven by this id, this insatiable pursuit of physical, worldly desires. "Let be be the finale of seem" is a call to those hungry for satiating their lustful desires to get a grasp on reality and take it for what it is, not what it seems to be (i.e. stop "wanting" everything). Power means "Hey, I got what I wanted," but it should mean nothing to all else.

And no matter how beautiful one's things are or how delicate one's clothing might be, the person inside the "beautiful" shell still has the capacity for ugliness and stupidity. Not all is what it seems, making desires for those things aimed at hiding that harsh reality all worthless in the end.

That second stanza is kind of a knock on marriage and women who do themselves up in the mirror every now and then, because all that crap isn't going to hide the fact that she's still an ugly person.

In short, physical desires are petty and for fools who cannot grasp reality. They hide behind their desires and are in constant pursuit of a perfection they can never attain for they cannot hide what is with an abundance of things that only seem to be.

GET IT?!?!? Haha.

This bullshit is why I'm an engineering major. Fuck this shit.

[Nuke LaLoosh Express]

Hendry, quit scratching yourself and pick

[Deleted]

No, i actually like Stevens a lot. And I know quite a few words that make me look like a genius in Scrabble - a secret obsession.

[Nuke LaLoosh Express]

I don't know if you this Joe Rogan, but I smoke crack rocks

[Lunatic Fringe]

I disliked virtually every aspect of high school English. In fact, I never got an 'A' in English; not one time. It's not even that I'm bad at it. I wrote a 3 page report once on The Red Badge of Courage by reading the dust jacket. It just wasn't my thing, especially poetry.

[Deleted]

Poetry was a lot better than some of the books I had to read. I even used Cliff Notes on "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde." How lazy was I, you ask? That lazy.

Wallace Stevens is college-level stuff. I guarantee no average high school kid is going to get that sheeeeit without rolling a few doobies.

[Lunatic Fringe]

You guys know anything about Excel? I'm fairly proficient at it, but the last two days my spreadsheets aren't automatically calculating my formulas. For instance, a team's total salary should change every time a new player is added, but today it's not. I have to go to the total box and double-click it (to highlight the formula) and hit enter for it to change. It's doing it on all the spreadsheets I have on this computer all of a sudden. It must be some setting that has somehow been changed, but I don't know what the hell is going on. all the formulas are correct.

[Deleted]

I don't have or use Excel. My computer is made of stone tablets.

In fact, I need to change the hammer and chisel with which I've been typing the past few weeks.

[Lunatic Fringe]

This is pissing me off. I'm going to have to open the help menu or read something. Dammit.

[arodsny]

Lol, I have no idea what you guys are talking about...I barely passed High School, I chose the work road.

[Lunatic Fringe]

I chose the same route, and now my ass is taking chemistry and calculus at the age of 30. Oh well. I'm off to bed; another long day tomorrow.

[arodsny]

admin said:

I chose the same route, and now my ass is taking chemistry and calculus at the age of 30. Oh well. I'm off to bed; another long day tomorrow.

Ditto my friend

[Ninja Warriors (JB)]

Anyone think Mike Lamb can put up decent numbers as a starter? He has never been given a chance although he has done really well as a part timer.

[leezrok]

im not an expert, but i can usually figure shit out if i can play wit hit (or google a tutorial anr fig it out), but i cant walk u thru i would need to see the file.

[varsity18]

Damn i was gong to take Rauch my next pick.

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admin said:

You guys know anything about Excel? I'm fairly proficient at it, but the last two days my spreadsheets aren't automatically calculating my formulas. For instance, a team's total salary should change every time a new player is added, but today it's not. I have to go to the total box and double-click it (to highlight the formula) and hit enter for it to change. It's doing it on all the spreadsheets I have on this computer all of a sudden. It must be some setting that has somehow been changed, but I don't know what the hell is going on. all the formulas are correct.

I'd have to be looking at the file, but I think this has happened to me before. If I remember right, there is some setting about auto formula calculation that is usually a default option... but I could be wrong. I'd probably try just re-entering the whole formula.

[Lunatic Fringe]

cbunge6 said:

admin said:

You guys know anything about Excel? I'm fairly proficient at it, but the last two days my spreadsheets aren't automatically calculating my formulas. For instance, a team's total salary should change every time a new player is added, but today it's not. I have to go to the total box and double-click it (to highlight the formula) and hit enter for it to change. It's doing it on all the spreadsheets I have on this computer all of a sudden. It must be some setting that has somehow been changed, but I don't know what the hell is going on. all the formulas are correct.

I'd have to be looking at the file, but I think this has happened to me before. If I remember right, there is some setting about auto formula calculation that is usually a default option... but I could be wrong. I'd probably try just re-entering the whole formula.

I tried that; it didn't work. I'm having this problem on every worksheet in every workbook on my computer, so I'm guessing it's some sort of universal setting. I'll get to the bottom of it.

[Lunatic Fringe]

How the hell did I get the league's highest payroll? That must be some sort of Excel malfunction, too.

[Rusty Trombones - Jackson]

Here comes the 12 hour Howard Berger endurance race.

[Bobby Ayala - Matt]

If it's any consolation, I have the least cap space left

[Lunatic Fringe]

allister979 said:

If it's any consolation, I have the least cap space left

You can only get Curt Schilling. I can get Curt Schilling AND Eric Chavez. I could even get J.D. Drew and Eric Chavez

[Rusty Trombones - Jackson]

admin said:

allister979 said:

If it's any consolation, I have the least cap space left

You can only get Curt Schilling. I can get Curt Schilling AND Eric Chavez. I could even get J.D. Drew and Eric Chavez

I think Schilling could win 20.......



























.....stitches for his shoulder.

[Lunatic Fringe]

Don't say that. The Sox are going to repeat!