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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2010 23:02:15 GMT -5
Oh Matt is just an AWFUL human being, isn't he? P.S.: He already pointed out that he made a mistake and later corrected it LONG before you "picked him up" in July. It's not Matt's fault you didn't thoroughly check before making that add. Forgive Matt or Dave or Jackson or Josh or me or Don or Steve or the other Dave or Chris or Ryan or Jason or Colin or the other Chris or Lee/Shannon for not doing your work for you.
Walter Sobchak said it best: "Doesn't anybody give a shit about the rules? MARK IT ZERO!"
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Post by Rusty Trombones - Jackson on Jan 1, 2010 23:06:24 GMT -5
Oh Matt is just an AWFUL human being, isn't he? P.S.: He already pointed out that he made a mistake and later corrected it LONG before you "picked him up" in July. It's not Matt's fault you didn't thoroughly check before making that add. Forgive Matt or Dave or Jackson or Josh or me or Don or Steve or the other Dave or Chris or Ryan or Jason or Colin or the other Chris or Lee/Shannon for not doing your work for you. Walter Sobchak said it best: "Doesn't anybody give a shit about the rules? MARK IT ZERO!" You were over the line smoky. This isn't nam, there are rules.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2010 23:29:43 GMT -5
Here is the thread where this is clarified: killinmesmalls.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=2607Specifically, my apology/admittance of mistake regarding what I thought were invalid adds, including Rondon: "In this case, Bergesen and Watts would be the only invalid adds, Bergesen because he is the 7th add without dropping a player, and Watts because of the Jon Kibler thing. Everything else Don and Gary did was okay, sorry."This post has no mention of Rondon, an the original May 12th post was never amended, I wasn't trying to steal any players from anybody. If it was amended I would have never added him. Now I feel like a piece of shit......
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Post by Nellie's Holler on Jan 2, 2010 0:13:06 GMT -5
A league like this can't run if people don't police their own teams. No one person should be expected to go through every single transaction to make sure they are all legit, unless we each want to pay that person to do so. It's just too much work and not feasible in a for-fun league. You look to see what's going on with your own players and if anything comes up, you address it so a ruling can be made. This 4 to 6 month later bullshit is just that, bullshit. Most owners plan out their keepers way in advance, and deals are made knowing who you will or won't keep. Isn't it kind of fucked up that the people who planned ahead are being punished for doing something they thought was legit 4 & 6 months ago? I'd be pretty pissed if I made all my plans according to who I have, making it clear to everyone who I have, and then be told that I'm fucked.
This shit happens in the justice system, and there are statutes of limitations that dictate how long after something is done a person can be held accountable for it. So no matter how wrong it sounds that someone cannot be held accountable for doing wrong if nobody acts on it for a while, that is the way most systems work.
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Post by Nellie's Holler on Jan 2, 2010 0:22:33 GMT -5
Mack made a ruling, so I'm not disputing that. Just thinking there is something we can do to make sure this doesn't happen again.
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Post by Nellie's Holler on Jan 2, 2010 0:35:05 GMT -5
Forgive Matt or Dave or Jackson or Josh or me or Don or Steve or the other Dave or Chris or Ryan or Jason or Colin or the other Chris or Lee/Shannon for not doing your work for you. Wait, am I the Chris or the Other Chris....just want to know where I rank.
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Post by varsity18 on Jan 2, 2010 2:12:38 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2010 9:49:21 GMT -5
killinmesmalls.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=2607I'm going to copy/paste something, yet again, so everyone can read it one more time: "In this case, Bergesen and Watts would be the only invalid adds, Bergesen because he is the 7th add without dropping a player, and Watts because of the Jon Kibler thing. Everything else Don and Gary did was okay, sorry." This was posted on May 18th, not even a week after Don added Rondon and Rzepczynski. This admission from Matt means both of those moves are 100% legal. And since Don never dropped those players from his MiLB roster, both of those players were rightfully his when you both added them to your rosters. Now unlike Gary's situation, Rzepczynski crossed the 50-inning threshold on 8/26, giving Don until the end of the day on 9/2 to add him to his MLB roster. That didn't happen. So with your mistake (you don't get this pitcher) and Don's lack of oversight (he loses this pitcher to free agency), neither one of you owns Marc Rzepczynski and he goes back into the player pool for the 2010 draft. This is NOT that difficult to understand, guys.
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 2, 2010 10:39:08 GMT -5
Maybe a good rule of thumb for all of us is that if we're adding a player that was mentioned in a post in which a retard like myself starts spouting something completely false, or if there are ANY doubt at all about the status of the player, mention in your post "can someone verify this is legit?" or "I think he's available" like many people have already done.
I'm sorry about this, I was trying to fix something but it wasn't broken. And in the process I broke it. My bad, let's move on.
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