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Post by Lunatic Fringe on Feb 7, 2010 11:58:39 GMT -5
I think I got all of the trades.
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Feb 7, 2010 12:12:02 GMT -5
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Post by Lunatic Fringe on Feb 7, 2010 12:32:03 GMT -5
Figures I missed my own trade. Thanks |
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Post by Yoink! on Feb 8, 2010 19:42:36 GMT -5
So, is this a good time to discuss my team's need for 5 additional players in the draft (due to lack of keepers)?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2010 19:51:40 GMT -5
I think you should be able to get guys right now -- and by that, I mean guys who were eligible MiLB Keepers at the end of the 2009 season. That excludes 2009 International Free Agent signings and anyone drafted in the June 2009 First-Year Player Draft.
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Post by Rusty Trombones - Jackson on Feb 8, 2010 19:57:41 GMT -5
So, is this a good time to discuss my team's need for 5 additional players in the draft (due to lack of keepers)? You should keep Travis Wood, Koby Clemens, Trevor Plouffe and Trevor Reckling. I know not everyone was cool with that, but I was and 2 of the guys were mine...and it's a quick fix. I know of at least one other team that snuck a dropped keeper through, and nobody even noticed so I think it's all good. Other than that I'd say 5 extra picks at the end of the draft would be fair. I bought 5 unused picks from the previous owner of your team last year after the MiLB draft and got Christian Friedrich among other good players. |
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Post by Rusty Trombones - Jackson on Feb 8, 2010 19:59:11 GMT -5
I think you should be able to get guys right now -- and by that, I mean guys who were eligible MiLB Keepers at the end of the 2009 season. That excludes 2009 International Free Agent signings and anyone drafted in the June 2009 First-Year Player Draft. Yeah I agree...whether it's Clemens and Reckling or 5 other guys. |
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Post by Nellie's Holler on Feb 8, 2010 21:44:30 GMT -5
I'm cool with that
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Feb 9, 2010 7:38:40 GMT -5
We should probably restrict these pick-ups to guys that weren't dropped at the deadline Dec 31st. If Dave is able to pick up the best of what we didn't keep, he'll have a better keeper set than about half the league.
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Post by Rusty Trombones - Jackson on Feb 9, 2010 8:59:01 GMT -5
We should probably restrict these pick-ups to guys that weren't dropped at the deadline Dec 31st. If Dave is able to pick up the best of what we didn't keep, he'll have a better keeper set than about half the league. That's because half the league either doesn't pay attention, or doesn't care, and it's the reason some teams have zero chance of ever winning this thing. Dave's team is terrible, let him pick any 5 and see how he does. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2010 9:00:56 GMT -5
Well if he had a chance to keep eight from the get-go, with his former manager not being a complete buffoon in some respects, his keeper team ran the likelihood of being better than half anyway. It's not his fault his former manager screwed him (and us). We have to be okay with making small concessions if we want this league to survive at 16 teams and not have to keep replacing every year. These little things help.
Besides, what's the difference between some undiscovered gem he'd find on his own or some guy we chose not to keep? Pretty much absolutely nothing. But you're right, since he was late to the league and completely fucked by previous management, we should let him only take scraps. That's the way to go!
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Feb 9, 2010 9:04:52 GMT -5
I think he should be able to get guys who were eligible MiLB Keepers at the end of the 2009 season, which excludes 2009 International Free Agent signings and anyone drafted in the June 2009 First-Year Player Draft.
I also think it's okay for him to pick up guys we dropped. He only gets to add four players to his MiLB roster (because he has four now), so if getting four of our 9th-best MiLB keepers gives him a better set of keepers than half the teams in the league, then so be it, because every other owner (me included) has had a helluva lot longer to build their MiLB squads than he has. It doesn't seem unfair for him to go into the draft with the 8th or 9th best set of MiLB keepers.
The only other option I would throw out there is for him to get a supplementary pick between each round of the draft.
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Post by Rusty Trombones - Jackson on Feb 9, 2010 9:13:18 GMT -5
I think he should be able to get guys who were eligible MiLB Keepers at the end of the 2009 season, which excludes 2009 International Free Agent signings and anyone drafted in the June 2009 First-Year Player Draft. I also think it's okay for him to pick up guys we dropped. He only gets to add four players to his MiLB roster (because he has four now), so if getting four of our 9th-best MiLB keepers gives him a better set of keepers than half the teams in the league, then so be it, because every other owner (me included) has had a helluva lot longer to build their MiLB squads than he has. It doesn't seem unfair for him to go into the draft with the 8th or 9th best set of MiLB keepers. The only other option I would throw out there is for him to get a supplementary pick between each round of the draft. He traded for Bourjos after the keeper deadline, so he should get to pick up 5 players. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2010 9:27:20 GMT -5
Dave I'm cool with you picking up any 5 MiLB eligible players, but not any of those players Colin mentioned. Look over the players an if you want get the guys Jackson mention or you would to find 5 players you think will be great, do it.
I didn't even want you to join this league, I wanted contraction to level the playing field, but since that idea was nixed, an what I have witness during the draft you have been a great addition. I was wrong, an I welcome you to the best league around.
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Feb 9, 2010 9:46:22 GMT -5
quote] He traded for Bourjos after the keeper deadline, so he should get to pick up 5 players. True dat. I'd forgotten that Bourjos didn't count towards his keepers. Make it five! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2010 10:32:50 GMT -5
You were the one who traded Bourjos to him! Haha.
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Feb 9, 2010 13:41:56 GMT -5
You were the one who traded Bourjos to him! Haha. At least I didn't try to convert Freddy Sanchez into a pitcher.  |
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Post by Lunatic Fringe on Feb 9, 2010 16:50:22 GMT -5
I don't see any issue with allowing Dave to pick 5 MiLB players who were eligible at the keeper deadline now, if no one else does.
So, when do you guys want to start the draft?
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Feb 9, 2010 17:08:34 GMT -5
I don't see any issue with allowing Dave to pick 5 MiLB players who were eligible at the keeper deadline now, if no one else does. So, when do you guys want to start the draft? How about ten days from yesterday? Thursday, February 18? |
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Post by Lunatic Fringe on Feb 9, 2010 17:15:26 GMT -5
I don't see any issue with allowing Dave to pick 5 MiLB players who were eligible at the keeper deadline now, if no one else does. So, when do you guys want to start the draft? How about ten days from yesterday? Thursday, February 18? Works for me. |
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Post by Yoink! on Feb 11, 2010 0:38:29 GMT -5
Ok, here are the 5 MiLB that I added.
1) Stephen Strasburg (SP) Was
2) Dustin Ackley (1B/2B) Sea
3) Aroldis Chapman (SP) Cin
4) Crash Davis (C) Durham Bulls
5) Ricky "Wild Thing" Vaughn (RP) California Penal League
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Post by Yoink! on Feb 11, 2010 0:39:29 GMT -5
Here are my actual 5:
Jarrod Parker (SP) AZ
Ben Revere (OF) MIN
Mike Montgomery (SP) KC
Jaime Garcia (SP) STL
David "Wild Thing" Freese (3B) STL
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Post by Rusty Trombones - Jackson on Feb 11, 2010 10:16:20 GMT -5
Here are my actual 5: Jarrod Parker (SP) AZ Ben Revere (OF) MIN Mike Montgomery (SP) KC Jaime Garcia (SP) STL David "Wild Thing" Freese (3B) STL Wow. You just cherry picked your way into better keepers than half the league...just like Matt said. I'm still ok with it...but I don't think we should make this a yearly practice, this should just be a one time exemption. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 13:10:40 GMT -5
It's a good thing Parker's going to miss '10 thanks to TJ surgery! Otherwise I'd be more worried. |
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Post by Lunatic Fringe on Feb 11, 2010 19:29:46 GMT -5
Here are my actual 5: Jarrod Parker (SP) AZ Ben Revere (OF) MIN Mike Montgomery (SP) KC Jaime Garcia (SP) STL David "Wild Thing" Freese (3B) STL Wow. You just cherry picked your way into better keepers than half the league...just like Matt said. I'm still ok with it...but I don't think we should make this a yearly practice, this should just be a one time exemption. This is definitely a one-time concession we made for a new owner. If someone decides to trade away his entire MiLB roster to try to win now, so be it. We won't be replenishing his roster in this way for him. |
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Post by Lunatic Fringe on Feb 11, 2010 19:30:11 GMT -5
I was going to try to make David Freese my first pick....
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Post by Yoink! on Feb 11, 2010 21:21:19 GMT -5
I appreciate the one-time concession. I didn't realize that the previous owner was selling the farm to win last year...that strategy didn't appear to work too well for him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2010 22:23:20 GMT -5
No, he never did anything of that sort. In fact, he admitted to us several times that he didn't care at all about Minor League players. Though I wish you would have seen his team -- it wasn't good at all! You wonder how often someone like that comes into a league with 8 MiLB keepers and says "I don't care about MiLB guys" without getting booted. I've been in three money leagues with similar circumstances that have all removed guys saying similar things or blatantly ignoring league rules.
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Post by Rusty Trombones - Jackson on Feb 12, 2010 10:16:41 GMT -5
No, he never did anything of that sort. In fact, he admitted to us several times that he didn't care at all about Minor League players. Though I wish you would have seen his team -- it wasn't good at all! You wonder how often someone like that comes into a league with 8 MiLB keepers and says "I don't care about MiLB guys" without getting booted. I've been in three money leagues with similar circumstances that have all removed guys saying similar things or blatantly ignoring league rules. Yeah be basically refused to make any MiLB picks, and said he didn't care. I bought 4 of his MiLB draft picks for $5 million dollars at the end of the draft just to boost my MiLB system because he didn't want them. |
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Post by Yoink! on Feb 12, 2010 12:20:49 GMT -5
Is there some type of rule that states you must have a certain number of MiLB players at all times?
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