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Post by Lunatic Fringe on Feb 13, 2012 0:18:32 GMT -5
My weekends are really starting to suck...
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Post by fishmystic on Feb 13, 2012 0:33:09 GMT -5
LOL. I don't think I remember a team starting pitchers and catchers this early. Here's the kicker. If Hit and Run doesn't make a pick soon, I'll end up sleeping or working through my pick time...except tomorrow is a holiday in IL, so it will most likely be sleeping if I don't set my alarm... I thought all old people woke up really early, Rob. |
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Feb 14, 2012 17:26:53 GMT -5
Someone should now pick Aaron Harang just to piss off Gary.
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Post by fishmystic on Feb 14, 2012 20:38:09 GMT -5
LOL. I don't think I remember a team starting pitchers and catchers this early. Here's the kicker. If Hit and Run doesn't make a pick soon, I'll end up sleeping or working through my pick time...except tomorrow is a holiday in IL, so it will most likely be sleeping if I don't set my alarm... I thought all old people woke up really early, Rob. Not old people recovering from surgery. |
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Post by Yoink! on Feb 14, 2012 23:57:12 GMT -5
Here's a question I should have asked earlier...
I have drafted 2 more players than I have roster spots. I did this intentionally because I believe a couple of guys will open the season on the DL. Is it ok to wait until they are DL-eligible on ESPN and then DL them (as long as it's before the season starts), or do I have to drop two players as soon as the draft is over?
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Post by C4 on Feb 15, 2012 6:00:12 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, we allowed them to be rostered for a "grace period" last season (I think). Knowing that a couple of my guys are not going to be ready for the season, I have already placed them on the DL (which makes my roster incomplete). So I'll be picking up a guy after the draft, even though that technically puts me over 30. But I think that as long as the reports are saying that the guy is out, it's OK to place them on the DL (or at least it should be).
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Feb 15, 2012 7:38:14 GMT -5
Here's a question I should have asked earlier... I have drafted 2 more players than I have roster spots. I did this intentionally because I believe a couple of guys will open the season on the DL. Is it ok to wait until they are DL-eligible on ESPN and then DL them (as long as it's before the season starts), or do I have to drop two players as soon as the draft is over? You do not have to drop players as soon as the draft is over. If you have guys that are known to be starting the season on the DL, you can carry other guys on your roster in their place and drop your DL player on ESPN, posting it in the DL thread here on the proboard. A few days before the season begins, we'll have a deadline to have your roster posted and conforming to the salary cap, and by opening day you'll have to have it right on ESPN. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2012 16:34:09 GMT -5
Someone should now pick Aaron Harang just to piss off Gary. Did I jump the gun on this pick? Wasn't I up? |
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Post by C4 on Feb 15, 2012 16:35:26 GMT -5
Someone should now pick Aaron Harang just to piss off Gary. Did I jump the gun on this pick? Wasn't I up? No, you just picked Adam Harang, who must be his less-talented and less-sought-after brother  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2012 16:36:18 GMT -5
I drafted Jorge De La Rosa who I believe will be headed to the DL
Can I pick up another player NOW or do I have to wait until ESPN puts him on the DL?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2012 16:39:46 GMT -5
Did I jump the gun on this pick? Wasn't I up? No, you just picked Adam Harang, who must be his less-talented and less-sought-after brother I get it.......Adam/Aaron |
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Post by C4 on Feb 15, 2012 17:03:54 GMT -5
I drafted Jorge De La Rosa who I believe will be headed to the DL Can I pick up another player NOW or do I have to wait until ESPN puts him on the DL? You can put him on the DL now, but you (or should I say we) cannot pick up extra players until 1 week after the MiLB draft ends. |
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Feb 15, 2012 22:01:21 GMT -5
I drafted Jorge De La Rosa who I believe will be headed to the DL Can I pick up another player NOW or do I have to wait until ESPN puts him on the DL? I'm in the same boat as Gary. I drafted Chipper Jones, who I also believe will be headed to the DL. He's not hurt or anything, I just believe he will be. So...can I pick up another player now? Or do I actually have to wait for the inevitable? |
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Post by Nellie's Holler on Feb 15, 2012 22:30:39 GMT -5
You should have just signed him to a Minor League Contract along with an invite to Spring Training and opt-out clause if he's not on the official roster by Opening Day like I did Tom Gorzelanny.
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Post by Yoink! on Feb 16, 2012 0:15:02 GMT -5
For inevitable DL-bound players....we still need to wait until after the milb draft to take someone else to fill their spots.
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Feb 16, 2012 13:59:26 GMT -5
FYI, I emailed and texted Ninja Warriors a few days ago.
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Mar 14, 2012 15:11:26 GMT -5
We tried this a few years ago to mixed results, but let’s play ‘best picks of the draft.’
(This is my opinion only.)
1st: I needed a 2B so Aaron Hill and Michael Cuddyer were the top 2 guys on my board. Bailey and Joyce were also close to the top.
2nd: Props to the Juggs for taking the best closer available at the time, twice. Soria and Putz equals 80+ saves with solid peripherals. Too bad he doesn’t have another closer to really drive it home.
3rd: Not trying to lick his balls, but props to the Juggs again for breaking the ice with Carlos Beltran, probably the best super-expensive guy in the draft.
4th: I really liked Alejandro De Aza and John Mayberry Jr taken by Yoink at the end the round, a couple of solid young OFs with upside.
5th: Morneau could still be a steal here for the Bunters, but Carlos Pena’s return to the Rays immediately after being taken by Triple B’s made him the best pick of an unsigned player in the draft.
6th: No one stands out above the rest, but Seth Smith, Niese, and Scutaro were all great picks.
7th: Sergio Romo, David Hernandez, and Antonio Bastardo were half my bullpen down the stretch last year, and they were all awesome. They might finish this season 1-2-3 in holds.
8th: I think Josh Reddick was a solid pick by the Trombones, even after the A’s kept adding outfielders.
9th: I love me some relief pitchers. Salas, O’Flaherty and Perkins were the top 3 left on my board.
10th: I thought Brandon McCarthy was one of the best SP available in the whole draft. Nuke did too.
11th: Phil Hughes was a fantastic pick by Rapist, especially after the Burnett trade.
12th: I can’t for the life of me figure out Ricky Nolasco lasted until the 12th round. I was starting to think about scrapping my draft strategy until Nuke took him.
13th: I thought about drafting Brian Roberts as early as the 1st round, but every report said he was “still suffering side effects” and had “no timetable for return.” Then Nuke drafted him and he’s “suffering no setbacks” and “getting on track.”
14th: I liked Trevor Plouffe and Alex White back-to-back by Rat Bastards and Triple B’s.
15th: Tony Sipp was tied for 12th in the majors in holds last year, and he was nearly the 50th non-closer reliever off the board when Lunatic took him here.
16th: No one else taken in this round has the upside of Trayvon Robinson, taken by the Jagalouns.
17th: I wouldn’t be surprised if all 16 players taken this round end up being solid contributors by the end of the season. Triple B’s selection of Jorge De La Rosa might be the best of the lot.
18th: Brett Myers aside, Travis Hafner taken by Lunatic as the 3rd-to-last pick in the draft was brilliance.
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Post by Nellie's Holler on Mar 15, 2012 14:16:18 GMT -5
Can't say I understand the Ricky Nolasco love at all. he's had 3 straight forgettable years that culminated in a big drop in K/9 last year. He was the 109th ranked SP last year (by player rater), which even in a 16 team league makes him WW fodder. Is the love due to a FIP that is consistently wrong on this guy?
Even statheads like Cory "Stats" Schwartz have given up on guys like Nolasco:
"Cory, the list of 12 is up (http://fantasy411.mlblogs.com/ for those not in the know... shame on you!)and perennial underperformer Brandon Morrow is up there. What's your opinion on guys that consistently underperform their xFIP? Is Ricky Nolasco an anonomly or is there some skill defecit we're missing?
(mattseward from Cardiff, UK) This is a good area where "scouting" and observation can complement stats and analytics. My guess is that guys like this struggle with runners on base, so even though they have good pure stuff (as shown in the K/BB rates), they're more susceptible to big innings. This is certainly true of Nolasco... take out his four worst starts last year and he has what, a 3.25 ERA? On the other hand, you have guys like Matt Cain who consistently outperform their xFIP, xERA, whatever... so after 5-6 years of that we must conclude there is some skill at work there that guys like Nolasco and Morrow haven't developed yet. (Cory Schwartz)"
So where is the love that makes two people so desire him and want to change an entire draft strategy for? (He will now win the cy young because I said all of this)
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Mar 15, 2012 15:51:37 GMT -5
This is certainly true of Nolasco... take out his four worst starts last year and he has what, a 3.25 ERA? So assuming he has a correctable mental/confidence problem that causes him to be less effective with runners on base, I see Nolasco as a reasonably priced 29 year old with few durability issues with almost a 4/1 k/bb ratio for his career who projects to have a mid-3 FIP. Not bad for effectively going in the 24th round, and better than about a dozen SP taken ahead of him. My strategy was to not draft a SP until much later unless the value of a particular guy was just too great to pass up, and I thought that Nolasco's value was almost there when he was drafted. |
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Mar 15, 2012 18:41:12 GMT -5
This is certainly true of Nolasco... take out his four worst starts last year and he has what, a 3.25 ERA? So assuming he has a correctable mental/confidence problem that causes him to be less effective with runners on base, I see Nolasco as a reasonably priced 29 year old with few durability issues with almost a 4/1 k/bb ratio for his career who projects to have a mid-3 FIP. Not bad for effectively going in the 24th round, and better than about a dozen SP taken ahead of him. My strategy was to not draft a SP until much later unless the value of a particular guy was just too great to pass up, and I thought that Nolasco's value was almost there when he was drafted. If he has a correctable mental/confidence problem, why does he still have it? He's been in the big leagues for at least parts of six seasons now. Can't they find any fucking shrinks in South Florida? Too bad FIP isn't a roto category. |
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Mar 15, 2012 19:35:42 GMT -5
So assuming he has a correctable mental/confidence problem that causes him to be less effective with runners on base, I see Nolasco as a reasonably priced 29 year old with few durability issues with almost a 4/1 k/bb ratio for his career who projects to have a mid-3 FIP. Not bad for effectively going in the 24th round, and better than about a dozen SP taken ahead of him. My strategy was to not draft a SP until much later unless the value of a particular guy was just too great to pass up, and I thought that Nolasco's value was almost there when he was drafted. If he has a correctable mental/confidence problem, why does he still have it? He's been in the big leagues for at least parts of six seasons now. Can't they find any fucking shrinks in South Florida? At a glance, on yahoo he's the 265th player drafted on average, which puts him in the middle of our 4th round. He's going 233rd on ESPN. He was a great pick for where he was taken, that's all I'm saying. |
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