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Post by varsity18 on Jan 21, 2009 15:31:17 GMT -5
And does anyone know If Coco has the starting job fo sho yet?
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 21, 2009 17:00:32 GMT -5
I was betting he would, he was on my board. Good pick
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 17:03:03 GMT -5
That outfield should look like DeJesus - Crisp - Guillen left to right, so yes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 17:04:13 GMT -5
And I now have internet access from the apartment. Sweet Jesus.
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Post by Nuke LaLoosh Express on Jan 21, 2009 17:07:01 GMT -5
Now you can look at porn at home instead of at the public library
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 17:13:35 GMT -5
Nah the library made porn-hopping fun. I always sat in the kids section and had Arthur sitting on my desktop. 'Twas adorable.
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Post by varsity18 on Jan 21, 2009 17:35:48 GMT -5
That outfield should look like DeJesus - Crisp - Guillen left to right, so yes. Thanks. Hes been my sleeper for the past 3 rounds. Its cheap steals, hopefull around 35-40 and maybe 15 homers and a 280 average. Not bad considering the quality of batters left that steal bases. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 17:42:43 GMT -5
My next three or four picks look pretty good to that end, but it's a toss-up whether I'll get all four. I have tried to write down as many names as possible on a cheat sheet here and plan for the next 10 to 15 rounds... Though I have a feeling most if not all will be gone within the next five.
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Post by varsity18 on Jan 21, 2009 17:49:07 GMT -5
I have 3 guys that I want, and im not sure if either are really on anyones list as a must. The draft has been pretty good so far I think. I really wanted swisher, I think if hes not traded he will have a huge bounceback. And I wanted Coco, as I have been unsucessful in attaining a Steal guy for the price I want to pay. Now I just wanna fill the needs, Ive givin up BPA.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 17:52:11 GMT -5
You and about ten other teams. I've seen some pretty bad picks so far that paid little or no attention to BAO.
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Post by varsity18 on Jan 21, 2009 17:56:22 GMT -5
While depth is actually pretty important in this league, maybe even moreso then other leagues, layers at this part of the draft have little or no value, unlike a regular draft where 7th round picks have value. We are in the 17th round, and thats pretty much what you do by that point. I guess Litsch was a reach, But I like his upside. Besides that I think the rest of my picks are pretty spot on.
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 21, 2009 17:57:50 GMT -5
Nah the library made porn-hopping fun. I always sat in the kids section and had Arthur sitting on my desktop. 'Twas adorable. You jerk off to Arthur? |
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Post by varsity18 on Jan 21, 2009 18:00:38 GMT -5
Nah the library made porn-hopping fun. I always sat in the kids section and had Arthur sitting on my desktop. 'Twas adorable. You jerk off to Arthur? Do you even have to ask that? Of course he does. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 18:04:38 GMT -5
Bullshit they have little to no value. Each team has a need or needs to consider. Inevitably, each round introduces both the BAO (best available option) player or the highest-ranking PRK (position ranking) player in filling either overall depth or the biggest need position.
No matter what, owners are forced to consider depth, age, salary figures, and other fantasy intangibles but are NOT forced to succumb to those factors in choosing players A over B. Sure there might be some added value in a guy who's three years younger than another, but the stat lines don't lie. The older guy, who has better stats and perhaps better consistency (a track record), is the better pick right now.
Sleepers, as Jackson defined earlier, are drafted way later than their present or potential value dictates. Sleepers in this league are the players who are chosen based nearly 100% on those intangibles I rattled off earlier. Are they sleepers if you choose them long before they should be selected? Nope. Instead, you just picked a guy you liked without considering the stat differential or keeper-quality value associated with that player and, say, another player who happens to be older and coming off of an equally strong if not better season.
So no, I do not agree with you that these guys have little to no value.
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Post by varsity18 on Jan 21, 2009 18:09:59 GMT -5
I meant trade value. My bad, should have made that known. When drafting early, 2 players may be drafted right after each other due to production, but one may be 5 years younger and command a higer value in a trade.
I agree with everything you said. I drafted Dye, mainly due to the reasons you said. Consistency and Quality stats.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 18:12:09 GMT -5
Oh. Yeah, value fluctuates with MiLB talents by the month or year. Case in point, Felix Pie as we've all discussed in another thread. I would not trade a top MLB guy for a top MiLB guy now or ten years from now. It just doesn't make sense.
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 21, 2009 18:12:17 GMT -5
Do you even have to ask that? Of course he does. Well I do to, and so does Gary. We're in the Whackin' Off to Arthur Club (WOAC). You should check it out. www.lovethataardvark.com |
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Post by varsity18 on Jan 21, 2009 18:13:18 GMT -5
Daric Barton....
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Post by varsity18 on Jan 21, 2009 18:16:34 GMT -5
Anyone keeping a spreadsheet, Im lazy and curious where I stand on Salary.
nvm i think Im near 90mil.
Thanks ruck, a quality number would be nice.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 18:19:10 GMT -5
I can find out for you. Give me a few minutes to add it all up.
And no I don't jerk off TO Arthur; I jerk off WITH Arthur.
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Post by varsity18 on Jan 21, 2009 18:26:01 GMT -5
Espn reports Eric Hurley has a torn Rotator.. Was a pretty good prospect for the Rangers.. Sucks. Hopefully he will be able to come back eventually.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 18:28:33 GMT -5
Fautino de los Santos had TJ surgery last season, too. Another good arm in the A's farm system.
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Post by varsity18 on Jan 21, 2009 18:30:59 GMT -5
Yea I had heard a lot of good things about santos.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 18:31:11 GMT -5
Ryan, I have $93,515,000 in current salary based on players and trades. So, you have $31,485,000 remaining.
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Post by Nuke LaLoosh Express on Jan 21, 2009 18:33:37 GMT -5
He owes 7,500,000 in the trade involving Chipper Jones
Buckner has 26,235,000 left.
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Post by varsity18 on Jan 21, 2009 18:33:57 GMT -5
Alright. Thanks. Wonder where I lost that 3 mil.. You got the 7.5 I owe for Chipper. Im assuming you did since you mentioned trades..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 18:35:24 GMT -5
Actually, it says $7 million given what Puckettiers typed.
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Post by Nuke LaLoosh Express on Jan 21, 2009 18:35:27 GMT -5
This is what I have for your team:
Position Name Salary Player name Salary
C Team Salary $91,265,000 Chipper Jones $7,500,000
1B Lance Berkman $14,500,000 Non-roster obligations $7,500,000
2B Alexi Casilla $390,000 Penalties incurred $0
SS Mike Aviles $390,000 Cap Space $26,235,000
3B Aramis Ramirez $14,000,000
OF Nick Swisher 3,500,000 Money Acquired
OF Jermaine Dye $9,500,000 Team From Amount
OF Rick Ankiel $900,000
OF Coco Crisp $4,750,000
1B/3B
2B/SS Brian Roberts $6,300,000
UTIL
SP C.C. Sabathia $9,000,000
SP Rich Harden $4,500,000 $7,500,000
SP Scott Kazmir $3,785,000 Total $0
RP Francisco Rodriguez $10,000,000
RP Minor League Roster
RP Player Position Team AB/IP Options
P Cliff Lee $3,750,000 Tim Alderson SP Giants
P Jake Peavy $6,000,000 Alcides Escobar SS Brewers
P Gerardo Parra OF Diamondbacks
Chris Cody OF Brewers
BENCH Tyler Robertson SP Twins
BENCH Michael Main SP Rangers
BENCH Kevin Pucetas SP Giants
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 21, 2009 18:35:56 GMT -5
Ryan, I have $93,515,000 in current salary based on players and trades. So, you have $31,485,000 remaining. Uh oh, post what you got Jimmy, this is what I have for Bucky: Lance Berkman $14,500,000 Alexi Casilla $390,000 Mike Aviles $390,000 Aramis Ramirez $14,000,000 Jermaine Dye $9,500,000 Rick Ankiel $900,000 Nick Swisher $3,500,000 Coco Crisp $4,750,000 Brian Roberts $6,300,000 C.C. Sabathia $9,000,000 Rich Harden $4,500,000 Scott Kazmir $3,785,000 Francisco Rodriguez $10,000,000 Cliff Lee $3,750,000 Jake Peavy $6,000,000 Team Salary $91,265,000 Non-roster obligations $7,500,000 (Part of trade with Auston Pucketteers) Penalties incurred $0 Cap Space $26,235,000 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 18:37:25 GMT -5
That's what I get for not having a spreadsheet. I knew I was going to screw something up.
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