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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Jan 9, 2011 12:10:40 GMT -5
Continuing a great tradition...
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 9, 2011 12:13:58 GMT -5
I texted Mack around 11am
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Post by Lunatic Fringe on Jan 9, 2011 13:28:51 GMT -5
I'm here. I don't have internet right now. I'm getting myself situated and I'll make my pick. Sorry for slowing everything up. I know how anxious everyone is when the draft starts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2011 15:40:18 GMT -5
I juat noticed the text...............thanks Colin.
still in still the hospital....feeling a little better.
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Jan 9, 2011 15:47:32 GMT -5
No problem, Gary. Make that hospital your porch and give 'em hell!
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Post by Nuke LaLoosh Express on Jan 9, 2011 17:23:50 GMT -5
Just got a text from Shannon (Severe Punishment) He said he'll make his pick within the hour and I'll make my pick shortly after.
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Post by Rusty Trombones - Jackson on Jan 9, 2011 21:04:23 GMT -5
Neil fucking Walker. I would have traded him for a 15th rounder or worse. I was trying to trade that clown for 3 goddamn months and he goes with the first pick. One man's trash....is another man's NEIL WALKER. Use the trade block people, there's bargains galore.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2011 22:18:25 GMT -5
Neil fucking Walker. I would have traded him for a 15th rounder or worse. I was trying to trade that clown for 3 goddamn months and he goes with the first pick. One man's trash....is another man's NEIL WALKER. Use the trade block people, there's bargains galore. With all due respect, as champion of the league, any player you drop will be trash to you but very valuable to another owner. As a manager not here when the initial draft went down, when all of the top 13-16 players at each position are taken except for C, SS, and RP, it means rebuilding a club, with hopes for lightning in a bottle. Taking Beltre (a top 10 3B...that I dropped 1 year ago), was my other choice and would have instantly increased my team's status, but his salary goes up to 15 mil next year and he is at the peak of his career) and of course he is no longer playing for a contract, or playing in the AL East ballparks. Austin Jackson was intriguing, but he is another OF...which I have 4-5 solid players playing that position. I'll admit that Neil is a reach for a #1 pick, but I don't think he is a reach for a first round selection, considering what is available. He is young promising talent, that may not have as great of a ceiling as his first year projects to, due to his MiLB numbers, but I am willing to take a chance on him, rather than selecting from the swill of veteran castoffs. Another top five pick, Swisher, lost his 1B eligibility...which leaves me with....wait for it, wait for it, ah yes another OF. RP Axford, I have Bailey and as I stated above, plenty of RP's available. Yeah, I will probably end up with an egg in the face on this pick, but after selecting Ethier, Bailey in the first rounds of consecutive drafts, I decided to roll the dice in this fantasy crapshoot. I think you are right, I did not pay attention to the trade boards to improve my club and at times, I am barely hanging on to managing this team with other life commitments. However, I highly doubt that you would have given up Walker, a former 1st round amateur draft pick for a 15 rd pick. Anyway, welcome back to another season of baseball, may you defend your title wisely, as you have 15 teams looking to knock you off of your proverbial perch. At the very least, thanks to taking the time to comment and I am sure as the top dog, your every pick will be much more, greatly scrutinized, or maybe not considering the squad you already own. |
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Post by fishmystic on Jan 9, 2011 23:57:45 GMT -5
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Anyway, welcome back to another season of baseball, may you defend your title wisely, as you have 15 teams looking to knock you off of your proverbial perch.
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14, I'm just enjoying the league.
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Post by Rusty Trombones - Jackson on Jan 10, 2011 8:29:13 GMT -5
Neil fucking Walker. I would have traded him for a 15th rounder or worse. I was trying to trade that clown for 3 goddamn months and he goes with the first pick. One man's trash....is another man's NEIL WALKER. Use the trade block people, there's bargains galore. With all due respect, as champion of the league, any player you drop will be trash to you but very valuable to another owner. As a manager not here when the initial draft went down, when all of the top 13-16 players at each position are taken except for C, SS, and RP, it means rebuilding a club, with hopes for lightning in a bottle. Taking Beltre (a top 10 3B...that I dropped 1 year ago), was my other choice and would have instantly increased my team's status, but his salary goes up to 15 mil next year and he is at the peak of his career) and of course he is no longer playing for a contract, or playing in the AL East ballparks. Austin Jackson was intriguing, but he is another OF...which I have 4-5 solid players playing that position. I'll admit that Neil is a reach for a #1 pick, but I don't think he is a reach for a first round selection, considering what is available. He is young promising talent, that may not have as great of a ceiling as his first year projects to, due to his MiLB numbers, but I am willing to take a chance on him, rather than selecting from the swill of veteran castoffs. Another top five pick, Swisher, lost his 1B eligibility...which leaves me with....wait for it, wait for it, ah yes another OF. RP Axford, I have Bailey and as I stated above, plenty of RP's available. Yeah, I will probably end up with an egg in the face on this pick, but after selecting Ethier, Bailey in the first rounds of consecutive drafts, I decided to roll the dice in this fantasy crapshoot. I think you are right, I did not pay attention to the trade boards to improve my club and at times, I am barely hanging on to managing this team with other life commitments. However, I highly doubt that you would have given up Walker, a former 1st round amateur draft pick for a 15 rd pick. Anyway, welcome back to another season of baseball, may you defend your title wisely, as you have 15 teams looking to knock you off of your proverbial perch. At the very least, thanks to taking the time to comment and I am sure as the top dog, your every pick will be much more, greatly scrutinized, or maybe not considering the squad you already own. My point wasn't that Neil Walker sucks or that he was a bad pick. My point is that I had him on the trade block for 3 months and would have taken next to nothing for him and it's frustrating to see a player picked #1 overall that drew zero trade interest. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2011 11:25:14 GMT -5
[/quote] My point wasn't that Neil Walker sucks or that he was a bad pick. My point is that I had him on the trade block for 3 months and would have taken next to nothing for him and it's frustrating to see a player picked #1 overall that drew zero trade interest.[/quote] I thought you were putting out some friendly banter, and I agree with you on two things, I'd be frustrated too, and that Walker was a bad pick, especially after I missed the trading opportunity. Of course, my track record reaches a comical high and greatly exaggerates my managerial ineptitude when... "Can I have, Teams that will never win the Sandlot League for 100, please Alex?" Question: This team has had four players that the owner dropped who were later selected in the first round of the 2011 Sandlot draft. "Baseball prognosticator, what is your answer? "Duhhh-What is the Baseball Junkies?" "Correct" <Applause> Make that 13 teams in pursuit of Rusty Trombone's first place reign. Have a great draft everyone! |
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 10, 2011 11:49:57 GMT -5
Swisher, Dempster, Snider, ______?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2011 11:53:47 GMT -5
Swisher, Dempster, Snider, ______? Beltre (last year's brilliant move) |
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Jan 10, 2011 12:03:58 GMT -5
Swisher, Dempster, Snider, ______? Beltre (last year's brilliant move) Wait...when did you own Beltre last year? I don't remember that. I drafted him in the 5th round and traded him to Buckner a couple months later. |
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Jan 10, 2011 12:04:53 GMT -5
Too bad we didn't get to Rob's pick sooner...he was on here almost all day yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2011 12:13:12 GMT -5
Beltre (last year's brilliant move) Wait...when did you own Beltre last year? I don't remember that. I drafted him in the 5th round and traded him to Buckner a couple months later. I released him into last year's draft after his injury plagued down year in Seattle |
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Post by fishmystic on Jan 10, 2011 12:19:47 GMT -5
Too bad we didn't get to Rob's pick sooner...he was on here almost all day yesterday. Yeah, i waited all day! I'm working on it now. Just give me a few mins. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2011 19:22:59 GMT -5
The draft part process is of Sandlot is something I looked forward every January this year sucks, sorry about the negativity.....I'm on a rollar-coaster ride with my emotions. This morning was on the high end: the thigh part of the leg looked less red an I finally could feel my skin. This afternoon: might as screw Gary up an send him spiraling down to a low. my IV screwed up an I was prodded an poked 5 times without success finding the magic vein. No success an then we wait for the doctor an then wait for the pharmacist to make the delivery, an still waiting. Now the freaking insurance company........like I need another headache.
Take care all.....an the porch has collapse.
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Post by Nuke LaLoosh Express on Jan 10, 2011 19:28:16 GMT -5
The draft part process is of Sandlot is something I looked forward every January this year sucks, sorry about the negativity.....I'm on a rollar-coaster ride with my emotions. This morning was on the high end: the thigh part of the leg looked less red an I finally could feel my skin. This afternoon: might as screw Gary up an send him spiraling down to a low. my IV screwed up an I was prodded an poked 5 times without success finding the magic vein. No success an then we wait for the doctor an then wait for the pharmacist to make the delivery, an still waiting. Now the freaking insurance company........like I need another headache. Take care all.....an the porch has collapse. You really are the anti-Dickman. We're all pulling for you Gary. If you need/want a visitor give me a call. If I remember right we're not that far apart. |
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Post by Nellie's Holler on Jan 11, 2011 8:54:12 GMT -5
1st Round Rating
It seems to me that the 1st round is typically disappointing to many players, and the pick of the drafts usually come in the middle rounds. Its the weirdest round in that you just never know what in the hell other people are thinking. Some draft for upside, some draft veterans to complete their team, some draft to fill a scarce position early, and then there's me who always drafts a closer. Still it's fun to guess who's going to be the pick of each round before the season starts.
My favorites are Austin Jackson & Travis Snider. Both are young OF's with much promise. Jackson is the much more clear cut 1st rounder in that he had a very productive season & has the minor league track record to keep it up. Snider is a very good upside pick in that he has great power with only one flaw, he doesn't walk much yet. He also ended the year on a high note. I'll go Snider for my favorite pick but with Jackson being a better sure thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2011 9:16:57 GMT -5
1st Round Rating It seems to me that the 1st round is typically disappointing to many players, and the pick of the drafts usually come in the middle rounds. Its the weirdest round in that you just never know what in the hell other people are thinking. Some draft for upside, some draft veterans to complete their team, some draft to fill a scarce position early, and then there's me who always drafts a closer. Still it's fun to guess who's going to be the pick of each round before the season starts. My favorites are Austin Jackson & Travis Snider. Both are young OF's with much promise. Jackson is the much more clear cut 1st rounder in that he had a very productive season & has the minor league track record to keep it up. Snider is a very good upside pick in that he has great power with only one flaw, he doesn't walk much yet. He also ended the year on a high note. I'll go Snider for my favorite pick but with Jackson being a better sure thing. If we are talking just 2011 production, I'll take Beltre or Dempster (obviously unbiased). But for picks that could be potential keepers next year, I'd agree with Snider, followed by Beltre. |
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 11, 2011 10:08:24 GMT -5
1st Round Rating It seems to me that the 1st round is typically disappointing to many players, and the pick of the drafts usually come in the middle rounds. Its the weirdest round in that you just never know what in the hell other people are thinking. Some draft for upside, some draft veterans to complete their team, some draft to fill a scarce position early, and then there's me who always drafts a closer. Still it's fun to guess who's going to be the pick of each round before the season starts. My favorites are Austin Jackson & Travis Snider. Both are young OF's with much promise. Jackson is the much more clear cut 1st rounder in that he had a very productive season & has the minor league track record to keep it up. Snider is a very good upside pick in that he has great power with only one flaw, he doesn't walk much yet. He also ended the year on a high note. I'll go Snider for my favorite pick but with Jackson being a better sure thing. Snider also can't hit for average and K's a ton, oh and he's the 4th OF/backup DH. 400 AB tops? I agree with Beltre as the best veteran pick, 3B is really shallow this year, he probably had the highest fantasy VORP of any player in the draft. Alcides Escobar was the best young pick (not biased at all.) Interesting to note that only 3 closers were taken in the first round. Last year? NINE |
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Post by Nellie's Holler on Jan 11, 2011 11:01:04 GMT -5
Striking out a ton has no bearing on his fantasy value in this league. I doubt I need to list the players that strike out a ton and are still top fantasy players. If he's the backup DH, who's the starting DH? Lind, Bautista & Snider will man OF, 1B & DH.
I wouldn't have minded grabbing Escobar for his SB threat. That said, he was a train wreck last year, and nobody knows that better than me. Other than SB's & SS eligibility, he's a drain everywhere else. Might just be that he left a sour taste in mouth from last year though.
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Post by Rusty Trombones - Jackson on Jan 11, 2011 11:07:06 GMT -5
1st Round Rating It seems to me that the 1st round is typically disappointing to many players, and the pick of the drafts usually come in the middle rounds. Its the weirdest round in that you just never know what in the hell other people are thinking. Some draft for upside, some draft veterans to complete their team, some draft to fill a scarce position early, and then there's me who always drafts a closer. Still it's fun to guess who's going to be the pick of each round before the season starts. My favorites are Austin Jackson & Travis Snider. Both are young OF's with much promise. Jackson is the much more clear cut 1st rounder in that he had a very productive season & has the minor league track record to keep it up. Snider is a very good upside pick in that he has great power with only one flaw, he doesn't walk much yet. He also ended the year on a high note. I'll go Snider for my favorite pick but with Jackson being a better sure thing. Snider also can't hit for average and K's a ton, oh and he's the 4th OF/backup DH. 400 AB tops? I agree with Beltre as the best veteran pick, 3B is really shallow this year, he probably had the highest fantasy VORP of any player in the draft. Alcides Escobar was the best young pick (not biased at all.) Interesting to note that only 3 closers were taken in the first round. Last year? NINE Snider will start at DH I'd assume. Davis, Wells, Bautista in the OF and Lind at 1B. He'll get 500 AB's and he was my favorite pick of the 1st round for overall value, I love the guy. As far as him not hitting for average (at age 22), I guess that's true except for the time he hit .300+ his entire minor league career. I think he could hit .275/25/85 with a chance for even better numbers. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2011 11:18:34 GMT -5
I like Snider an Jackson an had Jackson rated higher, but looking at my roster I went the pitcher route, hoping Myers goes one-step forward comes out of the year an on form.
Everybody has opinions about each other picks.......the best the worst. Have fun
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Post by C4 on Jan 11, 2011 11:48:45 GMT -5
I had Jackson as the guy I was targeting, but he was taken right before my pick (darn your blasted rules!). With no clear "ringer" in mind, I went with (another) pitcher, who could breakout this year. Or he could be another Chris Davis...*sigh*
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Post by Bobby Ayala - Matt on Jan 11, 2011 11:53:52 GMT -5
Snider also can't hit for average and K's a ton, oh and he's the 4th OF/backup DH. 400 AB tops? I agree with Beltre as the best veteran pick, 3B is really shallow this year, he probably had the highest fantasy VORP of any player in the draft. Alcides Escobar was the best young pick (not biased at all.) Interesting to note that only 3 closers were taken in the first round. Last year? NINE Snider will start at DH I'd assume. Davis, Wells, Bautista in the OF and Lind at 1B. He'll get 500 AB's and he was my favorite pick of the 1st round for overall value, I love the guy. As far as him not hitting for average (at age 22), I guess that's true except for the time he hit .300+ his entire minor league career. I think he could hit .275/25/85 with a chance for even better numbers. Snider hit .268 above A ball in his minor league career-- except 239 AB in AAA assisted by a .402 BABIP. Think he can sustain it? In 612 AB in the Majors he has a .320 BABIP, and he's hitting .255/.318. I feel like a .240/15/40 line is more likely. That being said, he is really young, and there aren't many players available with his big-time potential. |
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Post by Tecuala Juggernauts on Jan 11, 2011 12:10:41 GMT -5
Snider will start at DH I'd assume. Davis, Wells, Bautista in the OF and Lind at 1B. He'll get 500 AB's and he was my favorite pick of the 1st round for overall value, I love the guy. As far as him not hitting for average (at age 22), I guess that's true except for the time he hit .300+ his entire minor league career. I think he could hit .275/25/85 with a chance for even better numbers. Snider hit .268 above A ball in his minor league career-- except 239 AB in AAA assisted by a .402 BABIP. Think he can sustain it? In 612 AB in the Majors he has a .320 BABIP, and he's hitting .255/.318. I feel like a .240/15/40 line is more likely. That being said, he is really young, and there aren't many players available with his big-time potential. I don't think 500 plate appearances at AA are necessarily more indicative of Snider's ability than 270 plate appearances at AAA. And if we discount his AAA numbers due to a high BABIP, do we discount Escobar's AA numbers from 2008 because of a .370 BABIP? Probably not...because they're both great prospects. I merely chose to take a chance on the younger guy. Now I gotta figure out who to take next...that was a weird fucking first round. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2011 12:34:24 GMT -5
Snider hit .268 above A ball in his minor league career-- except 239 AB in AAA assisted by a .402 BABIP. Think he can sustain it? In 612 AB in the Majors he has a .320 BABIP, and he's hitting .255/.318. I feel like a .240/15/40 line is more likely. That being said, he is really young, and there aren't many players available with his big-time potential. I don't think 500 plate appearances at AA are necessarily more indicative of Snider's ability than 270 plate appearances at AAA. And if we discount his AAA numbers due to a high BABIP, do we discount Escobar's AA numbers from 2008 because of a .370 BABIP? Probably not...because they're both great prospects. I merely chose to take a chance on the younger guy. Now I gotta figure out who to take next...that was a weird fucking first round. Nothing should be discounted, that just decreases your sample. Also, good hitting prospects can put up absurdly high BABIP numbers in the minors b/c of the competition level and worse defenses. That said, Escobar definitely profiles as a player we'd expect to have higher MLB BABIP than Sinder since his game is built around speed and hitting liners/grounders. Unless Sinder shows a Vottoian ability to avoid infield flyballs, that is. |
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Post by Nellie's Holler on Jan 11, 2011 12:49:52 GMT -5
Most slappy hitters don't have abnormally high BABIPs. I thought of Escobar as someone like Pierre & Podsednik except at SS where he'd really have value, and those kind of guys have BABIPs in the .320 range. The guys that seem to maintain the higher BABIPs are ones that have some power and decent speed: Crawford, Jeter, Abreu...Justin Upton. Then there's Ichiro, which nobody seems to compare to very well.
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